thanks for the information, I have tried the heavy and it did help but others say to mix it up, so thats what I have been trying to do. I guess genetics play a larger roll than I thought. Some tell me that I have a great physique but it seems that dosen't doit for me. I have this idea that if I get to 175 of mass not fat, that I might be satisfied. I will continue to work hard and up my protein intake. I have gone back to heavy lifting and your probaly right about that, take care...